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Governor Candidates Debate On Social Media

6/23/2017

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  Like president Trump, many political figures are now using social media opportunities to reach out to voters and even their eventual political rivals. This sort of dynamic is becoming an exciting change because of the innovations of the information age. This morning, two candidates for Oklahoma's next governor, held an impromptu dialogue, along with the readers of SoonerPolitics.
  Of all the new dynamics of the information age, there emerges some new opportunities to dialogue in ways we've not been accustomed. Today, we are seeing some of this on the SoonerPolitics Reading Room (a Facebook group for discussing the topics of public policy & politics).
 We commissioned a readers' poll about the growing number of plaintiffs challenging the controversial new taxes which the legislature passed in the final few days of the 2017 session. With every new post there follows some rich discussion. 
  Libertarian candidate for governor, Rex Lawhorn, initiated a bit of a dialogue and it wrapped up with a direct discourse that Republican candidate, Gary Richardson, engaged in with Rex.
  We decided to post the substance, because it demonstrates the point that ordinary Oklahomans have great opportunities to connect directly with state leaders because of the great innovations of new media.
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  We're posting a snippet of the group discussion from Facebook.  The new poll results are nearly unanimously supporting the challenges that Richardson & others are filing, to oppose the taxes which were passed in a manner that the constitution forbids.
David Van Risseghem created a poll.
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Do you support a legal suit against the taxes that the legislative leaders passed in the last few days of the session?

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       Yes, We cannot let the legislature blatantly violate the constitution to feed their spending.
 
 
       I haven't made up my mind, yet.
     
           Yes. We needed to raise revenue, but it has to be done constitutionally.
       
             No, the state legislature had to do this because of an emergency. Let it Go!
       
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      Rex Lawhorn
                 Rex Lawhorn It's about time one of those money boys stepped up.
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           David Van Risseghem Seriously? You could just applaud the move and ask all Oklahomans to support the growing list of plaintiffs. But your comment sounds a bit like what a class-warfare socialist would say.
      Gary is doing this because he knows the constitutional threat it bears if no one does step in. It seems to me that we haven't had enough concern expressed by the legislators or other state leaders.
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           Rex Lawhorn You know better than that. Gary is doing this to gain press and garner support, more than likely because of people such as yourself calling out the candidates to take action. Gary does not now, nor has he ever cared about the people of Oklahoma, nor ...See More
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            Rex Lawhorn I'm fully supportive of the lawsuit, but I'm not going to pretend for a second that there's any altruism in this.
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           David Van Risseghem I demanded this of every candidate for governor.Gary Richardson is the only one to do it. You are the only one to applaud him(but you couched your support in a class warfare dig).
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      Rex Lawhorn
           Rex Lawhorn It's not a class warfare issue. You either have the resources to do it or you don't. I would have done it a month ago if the financial support had been available, whether I was running for office or not. See Lawhorn vs. Ziriax in 2012. I'm not afra...See More
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      David Van Risseghem
           David Van Risseghem Just drop the "money boys" phrase and your message would be more statesman-like.
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           Rex Lawhorn I can't claim to be a statesman. My blue-collar heritage will show in just about everything I do, but I can apologize for being inconsistent in my image, as I know that makes people entrenched in traditional politics uncomfortable. I won't apologize for being genuine, though.

      The point is simply this: Gary has been connected and had resources available to take action long before this, such as when he ran as an independent. He has been silent since then, despite numerous challenges that the state has needed a leader to step up and confront. He has been silent. His run is for personal legacy, not out of any concern for the state or her people. Any portrayal of him as a savior is made without justification.
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      Rex Lawhorn
           Rex Lawhorn I know he follows this group - he should feel welcome to respond.
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           Gary Richardson Rex Lawhorn you are speaking pretty wildly so it seems to me. You don't know me, don't know what my life has been about but yet you are speaking as if you are an authority on my life. Will that be your style?
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      Gary Richardson Rex we can all make excuses. It's those who find a way to get the job done that we need in leadership.
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      Rex Lawhorn
           Rex Lawhorn I speak only of what actions are on record. I spoke of nothing but your public activities. You are an attorney of a well-established, highly respected practice. You have enjoyed much success in your career field. You have been a public figure since at least the late 70s. In all that time, can you show a record of your activities of watchdogging the state beyond this lawsuit and your personal runs for office? If you can establish a record of activity for personal gain, I will happily and willingly rescind every remark regarding your motives. You would be my choice for the Republican nomination at this point - head and shoulders above your contenders, but I still want to know where you have been for the last 15 years. The state has needed your voice. I don't want excuses. I want to know what ways you found to get the job done.

      Your suit has my full support, but I still question your motives until you can show me otherwise.
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      Gary Richardson
           Gary Richardson Rex as to my political activity as far as filing suits and the like against the State you are correct. Like most, I have been hard at it making a living and taking care of family, etc. But now that I have laid my law practice aside I am free to take on other endeavors. And too, I don't think I have ever seen our State in quite the condition it is in today when it comes to a lack of leadership in upholding the values you and I stand for. All that said, I did spend close to $2M running for Gov as an Independent, thinking I would be in a better position to truly represent the people, not a party. Since philosophically I embrace the values of the Republican Party and do today believe the party is ready for the type of changes we need to make in our State, I am running this time as a Republican.
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      Rex Lawhorn Thank you for your integrity. My already sizable respect for you has grown.
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      Gary Richardson thanks friend
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               Traci Daniella Baker Although I am firmly in Rex Lawhorns camp, I was pleased to see that Gary Richardson would be challenging the taxes raised
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      Jonathan Steinbiser
               Jonathan Steinbiser I'm torn. Where would the funding for a legal suit against them come from? The already drained coffers? What would it really accomplish, especially knowing the outcome would pretty much be guaranteed in favor of the State.
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      Joanna Francisco
           Joanna Francisco The individual lawmakers that voted for it (in a perfect world).?
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                David Van Risseghem If they can ignore this (SQ640) , then they can ignore SQ780! We must all express solidarity on this.
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      Donald Lee
               Donald Lee Lawmakers skirting the law, despite the best of intentions, sets a bad example for everyone else (especially for "the children"). Unacceptable. The road to Hell . . .
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